Guess we can all say you added something to wormhole space :-/

Appreciate it.

Let's hope they all return... Someday...

On another note, what constitutes the "slightly different" items? Or they just specifically the stuff for making these implants.

Also, requires a pos to build the implants or can they be made in a station?

You fix graphical lag from clouds yet. (I didn't use a question mark because I know you haven't and never will)

While the sites sound cool, and the BPCs for the implants are going to be a neat step in the right direction for T2 implants, what other types of loot can we expect to see in these sites?

I say T2 implants because t1 are still a good isk sink from LP stores and should stay there for that very reason.

Have there been any changes to the hacking minigame?

DMC;

There's already a warp speed implant. +5% to +18% -- Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-6XX

And evidently there's also already a rig, too? I mean, CRAZY. Guess everyone just ignored it because the stat was so unimportant. :x


Affinity! Question for you! What's the total bonus from the full set?

a few questions:

define "fast paced hacking and combat"

is it tailored for big team of players

is it maybe for small group of 1-5 players?

will those sites scale with WH class (from 1 man sites in c1 to triage/dread fleet in c6)

how rare/abdundant You want those sites to make

will they appear in addition to existing sites or will they be just added to "spawn table" so overall sites in one WH system will be similar? I hope they are made as addition so we can have more things to do in WH

does all material needed for production of those impalnts be available in WH or do we need materials from diffrent types of space (i.e. can we produce them in WH or do we have to move stuff from hi sec into wh first)

so basically, you are introducing a brand new feature that was in fact an old feature you deleted in the previous patch? and you want us to applaud?

where did i saw that earlier....oh yeah, the hurricane, nerf it, then introduce brand new cane fleet which is the old cane witha x3 price tag....

and in the meantime, crazy bugs still won't get fixed like the server tick / the overview / local tag refresment / broken grids....

sorry to sound so bitter, but yeah....that is what almost all the annoucements for the last 3 patches makes me feel....

Does this mean they will only require the on-board scanner to find, and won't need to be probed down?

I this a newly announced feature? I don't recall reading anything about this in the features and ideas discussion section.

Any clue on the difficulty of ghost sites in wormholes?

Can they be capital escalated in C5/6s? Like radar and mag sites can.
Is loot different in anyway between W-space and K-space?

So what exactly did you work on for last 2 years? Because nothing new was introduced in term of content and environment and what was released consisted basically of attributes shifting (rebalance / tiercide team), artsy stuff (art team), sounds/music (audio team), few old hulls in new colors.

In the meantime lowsec pvp focal points were removed (static 2/10 DEDs), exploration switched into "go where lights are blinking and click on dots then grab whatever pinata spews on you", probing got broken on many levels from basic stuff up to meta level because apparently devs don't play their own game or even test for regressions. Oh, and you still didn't solve spaghetti code since what, 5 years ago? So no new POS system, no new corp management, no overview or d-scan revamp, no new anything.

So, what exactly Content Designers do for Eve?

It's good to see new content. I look forward to even more new stuff

I think what he means is that wormholes need some serious love all the way around and specifically in terms of security within corps and we got an entire team of devs working on a useless feature that no one would give two ***** about had you not just announced it.

so to recap, fuckfuck this shitshit.

Is the best bpc WH-only or is it that it also spawns in WH space?

Strongly agree. If it needs to be probed, it will make the items found in these sites rarer, thus more profitable for those of us that did exploration before it was made easier.

Now that the off topic issue has been addressed, maybe my questions about the Implant set could be answered now?


Specifically I'd like to know if an attribute bonus is included and how much of an increase does it include.

Where did you get this information? Link please.

If it's true, then these implants probably won't be used by the majority of the playerbase.



DMC

Oh well. Are there any plans for old fogeys like us? :)

Thank you so much for your timely response. I'm unaccustomed to such punctuality on these forums.

I have two questions:

1) Why did you decide that EVE really needs this?

2) Why did you decide that EVE needs this more than complete PvE or mining redesign to make those activities interesting?

Thanks for the reply.

In my opinion since LG Pirate sets have +2 to Attributes, the Ascendancy implants should have the same attribute bonus as well.





So let me get this straight.

Besides having to do a time consuming mini hacking game and chasing down random despawning loot spew containers while engaging hostile NPC's, the site itself will also include a random despawn timer that's activated when a player first lands on-grid?

Let's not forget there's a very high chance of unfriendly players showing up as well, especially in w-space, low sec and null sec. Well, null sec is more like high sec so they don't have to worry about it too much. That means the player will also have to spam D-scan and watch local as well.

Basically a Fleet with logistics will be needed just to complete these sites. To me this sounds more like an Incursion site than an Exploration site.

Correct me if I'm wrong but exploration is mainly conducted as a solo profession, not a fleet opp. Guess us old solo explorers won't be able to enjoy this new content.




DMC

I am so glad to hear there is no scattering.

Is that something that is that may be considered for data and relic sites too? I know the scattering mechinac offset with a larger loot table to keep the solo income the same at the time, but now it has completely crashed the exploration market.

That is exactly my point: you cannot rebalance things and call it new content. Rebalancing means restoring balance so basically attributes of existing things shifted left and right until they match each other and some threshold.

Tutorial is a content for what, first 15 minutes in Eve?

FW is farmville, spinning around button is not exactly groundbreaking feature.

And don't tell me you made new content for exploration because what you did there was raising the curtain and saying "look, here it is".

And ghost sites took you all time since Odyssey? Wow, I really need to see those - after half a year of work they must be pure ossum.
That meeting concluded with "hacking and rats and loot is bpc for implants players can make" had to be real brainstorming session.

There is no new content in Eve for a long time, what CCP gives us are refurbished and fixed old things. And that fixing is not even done by you so you are not part of solution...

Thanks again for the reply.

OK, so no loot spew. Definitely a good step and positive point for these new Hacking sites.

Players still have to do the mini hacking game click fest and engage hostile npc's at the same time while trying to complete the site within a random time frame before it despawns as well as watch out for unfriendly players via D-scan spam.

Still gonna need a fleet with logistics support to complete these sites.




DMC



EDIT:

Guess what I'm really asking is will I be able to complete these sites solo in my Loki?

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Absolutely - this could be a first step to making highsec a little more interesting.

I would like to know which module type will be required for the hacking in the sites. Will it be the data or relic analyzer? Or maybe both? Will cans explode when you fail twice aswell like it is now?

My understanding of the drops from posts so far is that the implant set will be somewhat similar to this:

Blueprints:
- Alpha in highsec only
- Beta in high and low
- Gamma in low only
- Delta in low, non-sov null and sov null
- Epsilon in non-sov null and sov null
- Omega in WHs only

Plus there will be requirements for both standard materials some unique materials that only come from these sites.

Want a full set? You can't get it an any single type of space, and the most dangerous* space has the better implants. Highsec explorers will get heaps of the BPCs of the alphas and betas, the others will be quite a bit rarer.


* Sovereign nullsec is arguably safer than lowsec, but that's just the way it is.

Can we has lore please?
Who are the ghosts? Why Is their technology increasing our warp capabilities? Are they awakened infomorphs? Why are these sites appearing throughout known and unknown space?

I want to know their secrets

Hi CCP Affinity

Will this site require either hacking module or analysing module (so hacking skill or archaeology skill) ?

hello there CCP Affinity .

i don't do sites so i won't comment on that part;

what i will comment on is the implant set and the time when this set will become available:

atm, on test server small ships are warping so fast, that the d- scan is becoming almost worthless;
there are several topics right on this subforum, where ppl are complaining that small tackle just "pop" right next to your ship, at about the same time they appear on your d-scaner, or even faster in some cases;

so, adding such an implant set, right at this moment will imbalance things even more?!
now, if someone at CCP considered this scenario, and concluded this is a good thing for eve, i can live with that.
but i'm more inclined to think that that noone did, since this change is a bad one, esp for wh space, where d- scan is one of the most important surviving tools ppl have

Thanks for answer! (and grats for keeping with the thread!)

One more question.

It was said in the thread that NPC spawn will happen after ~5-20m from entering the site. It was also said that it will be only possible to try to hack a can once (and KABOM). Are you going to put several cans in one site, or is there a iteration to the hacking mechanic which will force us to stay on grid when NPC spawns? (currently hacking a can ONCE takes much less time than 5m)

Or did I miss something?

Thx for the info.

Three questions:

1. Why did you decide not to make it probable? With the introduction of easy-peasy scanning it shouldn't be a big issue and add a little spice / difficulty.
2. So either module will open the cans, I won't need both of em (relic/data)?
3. Will the high-grades only be available in WH or also in 0.0?

Thx in advance, always love new stuff

Thx a lot, diversity in activity in Eve is always a good thing. One final question, will there be a filter option or a distinction colour-wise to seperate this particular site from regular sigs?

I would like to say thank you for working on new PVE content... i am happy to here you have new back room tools that should allow not only enhancements to current PVE conent but all the addition of new content!

big high five from me!

Two questions.

First, will the can blow up (or otherwise be inaccessible) when the spawn happens? Can I hack it while the spawn is present, if I can tank the spawn? Can I trigger the site, wait around 20 minutes, then fly in and kill everything, and then hack the can?

Second, what sort of spawn is it? I live in wspace; we make most of our living off of killing sleepers. My assumption is that the spawn will be of the already-known sleeper types, such that it will be equally profitable as those types in current PVE sites. (Please correct that if I am wrong.) Will the spawn be relatively nasty for the wspace level (like a radar site)? Will it be easy for the wspace level (like gas/rocks)? Or it will it be comparable to an anom at that level?

Will they have normal loot and salvage? Specifically, for sleepers: will you implement a new type of sleeper (or perhaps a flag on existing types) that disables the normal generation of blue loot?

I don't see any problem with farming them, except that you seem to intend otherwise. Can you explain what the reasoning is?

Then... why isn't this thread in the Features and Ideas Discussion section where all the other new features had their debut threads posted? Having not seen the Eve Vegas announcement, If I had not come to the Test Server Feedback section I would have completely missed out on hearing about this new feature and it's discussion. Is this feature already running on Sisi? Why is this thread in the Test Server Feedback section?



New items? Perhaps unique to the Ghost Sites?
This would appeal to me.
I enjoy manufacturing odd/unique/niche things with odd/unique/niche materials.
It was why manufacturing storyline/cosmos items appealed to me greatly at first, until I found out I could only procure the BPC's through a mission once. I just don't feel like quite the intrepid explorer and artificer when I have to get the special BPC from... someone else through contracts :\

With unique ingredients I would very much look forward to building these but...



I think Mioelnir makes a damning point here.

i understand not having bounties due to isk faucet...

but there should be some sort of drops....

how about brining back alloys mixed with tags?

that way i can get commoditites wich can be traded for isk but no fresh isk added to the game.

i mean even when you do missions and fight navies there are drops and tags.

edit:

you can even make the drops from the npc's be components for manufacturing of the new items.

so npc drops components for manufacturing

the hacking site drops the BPC's...

Pirates in WH??? I hope there is some good lore explanation for this, otherwise it will not make sense

One question unrelated to the previous argument (which I won't comment on again; I've stated my position enough).

Will these sites be tuned to be roughly equally available at all times, or will there be a tendency to favor those that play immediately after downtime (as with some other site types)?

I'd suggest you have them instantly respawn somewhere else when cleared, and have them up in 2% of each type of system at any given time (highsec, lowsec, non-sovereign nullsec, sovereign nullsec and wormhole space); and have them somewhat favor more dangerous systems within each category (so non-contiguous highsec systems might be overrepresented on average; likewise C5/C6 systems).

since we are speaking of anoms and exploration, could it be possible that the scanner overlay be really deactivated when i set it to off.

actually, it cycle twice even in off.

it' good looking and all, but only when i need it, in wich case i turn it ON, but when i travel or do any other think non related, this is just polluting my screen every jump.

it's already a pita to do several jump because we cannot turn off the animation or AT LEAST the camera swinging, please make this change: overlay OFF => i don't see it when entering system / space at all...

thanks

Re: probes vs. analyzers:
Having probes out and scanning at the exact time such a site is in system seems very unlikely and I can see why they do not prefer this.
Forcing you to quickly refit an analyzer, when not equipped, may still allow you to be at the site in time.

Hi.

Having digested this thread, I think I can see what you are aiming at with this new feature and I must applaude you for the design which I believe will bring a new interesting dynamic to the game.

In general the design appears good.

Will there be a slight warning, say 3 seconds, before the NPCs appear? Could be a change in the music *hint hint*.

Will these NPCs be comparable to the 'veteran' types used in the Epic Arcs? Because those guys are nasty in numbers.

These sites are BADLY designed.

I was just doing a lesser guristas site in my 8/10 ded tanked tengu, then suddenly I got insta popped.

Explanation was that rats shot the labs and the explosion killed me. well i had 85/80 kin/therm resits, and the site was guristas. if a 1b ship gets insta popped in the easiest high sec site then it's NOT worth doing in any way or shape, especially not for the crappy implants.

cya.

So I understand correctly that implants will be made entirely by Eve players? Or only these warp speed implants?

Was I dumb to hold out hope that implant manufacturing would rely on some Eve-Dust connection?